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Temporal Forces Pack Opening: Is It Worth It?

Every card price, every rarity tier, Ace Spec pull rates, and a Monte Carlo simulation across 100,000 openings in Philippine Peso — know exactly what you're buying before you open.

Temporal Forces Pack Opening: Is It Worth It?
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EV per Pack (USD)
$6.01
₱ 378 PHP
Break-even Pack
₱ 378
~$6.01 USD
Break-even Bundle
₱ 2,266
~$36.04 USD · 6 packs
Break-even Box
₱ 13,597
~$216.27 USD · 36 packs
Win Rate · Pack
11%
687
Loss rate: 89%
Win Rate · Bundle
8.1%
4,715
Loss rate: 91.9%
Win Rate · Box
7.3%
19,631
Loss rate: 92.7%
Win Rate · Bundle
38.5%
2,063
Loss rate: 61.5%
Win Rate · Box
57.5%
12,378
Loss rate: 42.5%

Card prices are sourced from PriceCharting market data (USD). PHP values use live exchange rates. Temporal Forces (SV05) released March 2024 — prices have largely settled, though notable IRs like Gastly remain elevated.


The Short Answer

Whether opening Temporal Forces is worth it depends almost entirely on what you pay per pack. The expected value per pack is 378 — below US secondary market pricing at every product format.

ProductMarket Price (PHP)Card EVReturnVerdict
Booster Pack 687 3780.55×Significantly below EV
Booster Bundle (6) 4,715 2,2660.48×Significantly below EV
Booster Box (36) 19,631 13,5970.69×Below EV
Break-even 378/pack 3781.0×Cards cover cost on average

Card Prices by Rarity

Hyper Rare (◇★) — #213–218

6 cards. Estimated pull rate ~1 in 139 packs. Pool average: 677.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)
214Gouging Fire ex$15.00 943
218Raging Bolt ex$12.50 786
215Walking Wake ex$11.74 738
213Iron Leaves ex$8.49 534
216Iron Crown ex$8.48 533
217Iron Boulder ex$8.38 527

Special Illustration Rare (★★★ SIR) — #203–212

10 cards. Pull rate approximately ~1 in 86 packs. Morty's Conviction and Raging Bolt ex lead the pool at 4,159 and 3,922.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)
211Morty's Conviction$66.15 4,159
208Raging Bolt ex$62.38 3,922
204Gouging Fire ex$51.25 3,222
205Walking Wake ex$50.00 3,144
206Iron Crown ex$49.67 3,123
203Iron Leaves ex$31.66 1,990
209Bianca's Devotion$26.77 1,683
207Iron Boulder ex$22.69 1,427
212Salvatore$17.70 1,113
210Eri$17.11 1,076

Pool average: 2,486. Pool median: 2,556.

Illustration Rare (★ IR) — #163–184

22 cards. Expected roughly once every 13 packs (7.7%). Gastly #177 at 5,806 dominates this pool.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)Notes
177Gastly$92.35 5,806Chase IR — dominant pool value
166Sawsbuck$52.03 3,271Fan favourite seasonal art
165Deerling$36.97 2,324Pairs with Sawsbuck
183Cinccino$36.95 2,323
167Litten$36.00 2,263Popular starter
178Metagross$34.84 2,190
180Lickitung$29.00 1,823
176Arbok$28.63 1,800
184Drampa$27.48 1,728
182Minccino$24.00 1,509
164Grotle$17.88 1,124
168Snom$15.31 963
171Reuniclus$14.99 942
174Excadrill$11.54 726
173Relicanth$11.47 721
181Chatot$11.21 705
163Shiftry$10.76 676
175Mudsdale$9.99 628
169Charjabug$8.98 565
170Bronzor$8.58 539
172Cutiefly$8.50 534
179Meltan$6.57 413

Pool average: 1,526. Pool median: 1,043. Gastly alone skews the average — without it, the typical IR pull is worth 1,322 or less.

Ultra Rare (★★) — #185–202

18 cards. Expected roughly once every 15 packs (6.7%). Gengar ex #193 at 3,604 is the standout — the other 17 range from 110 to 442.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)
193Gengar ex$57.33 3,604
198Ciphermaniac's Codebreaking$7.03 442
185Torterra ex$4.62 290
196Raging Bolt ex$3.96 249
195Scizor ex$3.82 240
202Salvatore$3.33 209
187Incineroar ex$3.33 209
197Bianca's Devotion$3.28 206
201Morty's Conviction$3.18 200
188Gouging Fire ex$3.14 197
199Eri$2.52 158
194Farigiraf ex$2.33 146
200Explorer's Guidance$2.19 138
189Walking Wake ex$2.04 128
191Iron Crown ex$1.99 125
190Wugtrio ex$1.99 125
186Iron Leaves ex$1.75 110
192Iron Boulder ex$1.75 110

ACE SPEC Rare — #152, #153, #157, #161, #162

5 cards. Pull rate approximately ~1 in 20 packs. Hero's Cape and Neo Upper Energy carry the pool — buy them as singles if needed.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)Notes
152Hero's Cape$17.25 1,085Most-played ACE SPEC in format
162Neo Upper Energy$14.53 914Solid competitive demand
153Master Ball$1.99 125
161Mist Energy$1.67 105
157Prime Catcher$1.14 72

Double Rare (★★ ex) — 15 ex cards

Expected roughly once every 5 packs (21%). Pool average: 43. Gengar ex #104 at 409 stands out; the other 14 range from 3.14 to 57.

#CardPrice (USD)Price (PHP)
104Gengar ex$6.50 409
025Flutter Mane ex$0.91 57
045Walking Wake ex$0.62 39
061Wugtrio ex$0.38 24
058Raging Bolt ex$0.29 18
033Gouging Fire ex$0.25 16
011Iron Leaves ex$0.23 14
069Scizor ex$0.20 13
085Iron Treads ex$0.20 13
076Iron Boulder ex$0.18 11
088Okidogi ex$0.17 11
053Farigiraf ex$0.15 9.43
083Iron Crown ex$0.08 5.03
037Incineroar ex$0.07 4.40
005Torterra ex$0.05 3.14

Chase Cards: Top 10 by Value

#177 · IR
Gastly
5,806
$92 USD
#211 · SIR
Morty's Conviction
4,159
$66 USD
#208 · SIR
Raging Bolt ex
3,922
$62 USD
#193 · UR
Gengar ex
3,604
$57 USD
#166 · IR
Sawsbuck
3,271
$52 USD
#204 · SIR
Gouging Fire ex
3,222
$51 USD
#205 · SIR
Walking Wake ex
3,144
$50 USD
#206 · SIR
Iron Crown ex
3,123
$50 USD
#165 · IR
Deerling
2,324
$37 USD
#183 · IR
Cinccino
2,323
$37 USD

Temporal Forces is unusual compared to most SV sets — several of the top 10 cards by value are Illustration Rares, not just SIRs. Gastly #177 at 5,806 is in a category of its own.


Expected Value Per Pack

ComponentPull RatePool Avg (USD)EV Contribution
Bulk (commons + uncommons)100%$0.80$0.80
Reverse Holo slot100%$1.60$1.60
Standard Rare (★)57.76%$0.50$0.29
Double Rare (★★ ex)21.00%$0.69$0.14
ACE SPEC Rare5.00%$7.32$0.37
Ultra Rare (#185–202)6.67%$6.09$0.41
Illustration Rare (#163–184)7.69%$24.27$1.87
Special Illustration Rare (#203–212)1.16%$39.54$0.46
Hyper Rare (#213–218)0.72%$10.77$0.08
Total EV per pack
$6.01 USD 378 PHP

Monte Carlo: What Really Happens

Results from 100,000 simulated openings, drawing from the actual card pool prices and pull rates. Chart data is in USD; PHP values depend on the live exchange rate.

Loss rate
92.7%
of 100,000 simulated openings
Win rate
7.3%
at $312.25 US market price
P5 (bad luck)
-179
Median P/L
-105
P95 (good luck)
+16
Win threshold
$0
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Each bar = $50 profit/loss range. 100,000 simulated openings. Prices from PriceCharting (USD), September 2026.

Win / Loss summary across all scenarios

ScenarioCost (USD)Win %Loss %Median P/LP5 (bad luck)P95 (good luck)Avg Return
Pack — market (~$10.93)$10.9311%89%−$8−$8+$90.55×
Bundle — market (~$75.00)$758.1%91.9%−$48−$58+$110.48×
Box — market (~$312.25)$312.257.3%92.7%−$105−$179+$160.69×
Bundle — value (~$32.81)$32.8138.5%61.5%−$6−$16+$531.10×
Box — value (~$196.88)$196.8857.5%42.5%+$11−$63+$1321.10×

The Break-Even Price

Break-even pack
378
≈ $6.01 USD
Break-even bundle (6 packs)
2,266
≈ $36.04 USD
Break-even box (36 packs)
13,597
≈ $216.27 USD · market: 19,631

What You Should Actually Do

If you want a specific card

Buy the single. For Gastly IR at 5,806, the expected cost to pull it through pack opening far exceeds the current market price. Use tcgTalk price comparison to find the best current price.

If you want to open packs

Only open at 344 378 per pack or below. Temporal Forces is a 2024 set — older stock may be available at better prices from local game stores or online sellers clearing inventory. At current market prices ( 687/pack), you are getting 55 cents of value per dollar spent.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Is it worth opening Temporal Forces packs in the Philippines?

Only at prices near or below break-even (~ 378/pack). At market prices ( 687/pack), opening is 0.55× EV — deeply negative. For most collectors, buying singles is better value.

What is the most expensive Temporal Forces card in PHP right now?

Gastly IR (#177) at approximately 5,806, followed by Morty's Conviction SIR (#211) at 4,159 and Raging Bolt ex SIR (#208) at 3,922. Unlike most SV sets, the top cards are Illustration Rares, not SIRs.

What are the pull rates for Temporal Forces?

Based on community mass opening data (8,000+ packs): Hyper Rare ~0.72% (1 in ~139 packs), SIR ~1.16% (1 in ~86 packs), IR ~7.69% (1 in ~13 packs), Ultra Rare ~6.67% (1 in ~15 packs), ACE SPEC ~5% (1 in ~20 packs), Double Rare ~21% (1 in ~5 packs).

Disclaimer: All card prices from PriceCharting market data (USD) as of September 2026. PHP values use live exchange rates. Pull rates are community estimates from Temporal Forces mass opening data (8,000+ packs). Monte Carlo uses 100,000 simulations. This is not financial advice.

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